Discussion
Let us know what you think about any topic related to the Sierra Nevada Adaptive Management Project in the forums below. The Principal Investigators on the UC Science Team cannot answer every post, but they will read all comments in our their areas, and respond to comments as a group at each quarterly meeting. We greatly value your input!
Q: What kinds of stakeholders will be contacted to participate in the adaptive management process? Our goal is to provide various kinds of ways for various kinds of stakeholders to engage in the process, including information sharing and mutual learning meetings, and research planning, monitoring, and interpretation. We will certainly contact local elected officials, community leaders, and all kinds of interested stakeholders in each study area. For example, FireSafe Councils, we expect, will have a strong interest. We also plan to make an effort to bring in people who are not ordinarily at the table.
Q: How much impact will stakeholder decisions have? This in itself is a research question for our team! The comment we received at this website reminded us of this very crucial issue in time for the second workplan draft, and we decided to deal with it overtly as a topic for study. We need to somehow figure in the experimental design and scientific demands of the adaptive management process, complex administrative and legal framework of Forest Service decisionmaking, and the diverse points of view of stakeholders and partners. In our proposal, we state that we are committed to being very upfront about our knowledge of the opportunities and ultimate impact of stakeholder decisions for each phase or topic of the program. In addition, we plan to study how feedback from both scientific results and stakeholders is incorporated into Forest Service management decisions--and our own scientific approaches.
Q: Will direct public input be part of the participatory processes effort? Yes, absolutely. We see direct communication between scientists, managers, and stakeholders as essential to this process. For example, our public meetings are open to all and will continue to be so as long as we can get a room large enough. Direct input from the public will be part of all participatory processes.
Q: What kinds of methods will you be using to reach out to people, in addition to the website?
We are open to suggestions, and appreciate them! In particular, once dedicated personnel are hired to focus on engaging the public, we would expect all possible methods to be on the table for discussion. The main question we addressed to those attending our first public meeting was: how will we know when we have successfully reached out and engaged people? This question remains open!
Q: Why so little time for public input on the draft workplan?
A: We were up against a hard deadline, and basically for all the reasons you can imagine, it took us longer to do the draft than we thought. Remember, we had to put something together that anyone could look at, and that is pretty scary. More relevant, however, is that we are still listening to and will respond to public comment, and we will still use it, most definitely. People have good ideas, and we continue to take advantage of that.
Please note: I sent a copy of my full letter directly to UC Davis and am now posting the entire letter in each section as it contains reference to each section and should be read in its entirety as opposed to piecemeal.
February 26, 2006
Comments on February 20, 2006 Draft Workplan “Learning how to apply adaptive management to land management in the Sierra Nevada.”
Defenders of Wildlife (“Defenders”) is pleased to submit these comments on the above document (heretofore “Draft Workplan”). Defenders is a national, non-profit wildlife advocacy organization committed to the protection of wild, native plants and animals in their natural communities. We represent over 400,000 members throughout the United States, nearly 100,000 of which reside in California.
Defenders, California Program has a programmatic focus on the Sierra Nevada, with current programs focused on forest carnivores (primarily the Pacific fisher) and impacts of grazing on biodiversity. We were unable to make the initial December 9, 2005 public meeting on the focus of the Draft Workplan, but have submitted some input into that process to date and remain committed to engaging in this process as it moves forward.
Our first comments relates to the unreasonable timeline imposed on public comments to this draft. We were originally informed that we would have one week between February 10th and the 17th to review this draft. The draft was not released until February 21st with a due date of February 26th. We understand that there are tight timelines that the authors are working under, but this should not allow extensions on their part to necessitate unreasonable and unrealistic timelines for public input. At the very minimum, the public should be allowed 2 full working weeks to provide substantive input. In this case, only 4 working days were allotted. Because of this, the only possible way to provide input in our case is to conduct a cursory review over the weekend. This is not an acceptable regime for functional public input.
As for the content of the Draft Workplan itself, we are appreciative of the concerted attempt to design a course of action that is true to the precepts of Adaptive Management and Monitoring to the extent that the proposal incorporates a priori research questions designed to be tested by the management practices which will in turn be responsive to the results of the research.
One main question that we have is why is the approach limited to the west side of the Sierra Nevada only? As the Sierra Nevada Forest Plan Amendment covers both west and east side forest management, it would appear that this would be a major omission.
We are generally supportive of the conceptual framework of using a landscape planning approach at the fireshed level, and incorporating elements of Fire and Forest Health, Public Participation, Water Quality and Quantity, and Wildlife. The following includes our specific comments on each of these sections of the Draft Workplan:
Public Participation:
We appreciate that Public Participation is given equal consideration in this process. It is a critical element to effective development and implementation of an adaptive management approach. In particular, we are pleased to see the call for staff to be wholly responsible for this portion of the Workplan and for the focus on increasing opportunities for input from local stakeholders. We support the general model that the participatory process section lays out. One concern is that the “community of learning” approach may not allow for direct input from the public. This may already be the plan, but we specifically request that direct input be allowed in both the “community of learning” and “community of collaboration” cases.
We support the use of web-based tools, but they must be accompanied by
sufficient advertising and instructional outreach to inform people of their
availability and how to use them. We also suggest that there be outreach via
the public library system to capture the input of publics that may not have to
the internet via a personal computer. An outreach element that include public
instructional workshops at public libraries could facilitate informed
participation to those with and without personal access to the internet. As
mentioned previously, the public input time period should be reasonable.
Depending on the level of analysis required, this time period should range from
a minimum of 2 working weeks for shorter products (such as the 27 page workplan)
to up to 3 months for larger documents (on the scale of a traditional NEPA or
CEQA document). In addition to the geographically-based web comments, there
must also be a section for general comments that are relevant to the entire
geographic scope and the process itself.
We also suggest that regional workshops be developed throughout the life of this
process where the public can be shown various simulated results of management
options being considered. This has been done in regional transportation
planning efforts (e.g. SACOG’s Regional Blueprint outreach workshops) and is a
very effective educational and participatory tool that would apply to this
situation.
For evaluation purposes, we suggest that options for gathering feedback at the
time of input on the web system. This could provide general feedback on how
long it took to get the input registered, if they felt they had effectively
registered their comments, options of improvement, and the ability to capture
instances where someone wanted to input something and was unable to do so for
stated reasons. This could be done in the form of a pop-up window that folks
could choose to complete or not, with response rates also reported.
Water Quality and Quantity:
We are generally supportive of the approach outlined under this section.
Defenders is particularly pleased to see that standard macro invertebrate
indices will be used to determine the biological impacts of the management
treatments.
Wildlife: We support the decision to prioritize which species should be the focus of the wildlife impacts analysis. It is not feasible to monitor all potentially affected species. We support the criteria laid out in the Draft Workplan as scientifically sound and would like to ask for one additional criteria. There must be some evidence that the focal species is a valid indicator for the response of a wide variety of other species in order for one or a few species to be used as a proxy for the response of several hundred. We believe that this can be demonstrated for the species currently prioritized by the Draft Workplan.
Additionally, it is important that the impacts to wildlife species also
incorporate information regarding the landscape context of management actions.
It may very well be that an individual treatment will have a negative impact on
the ability of that area to sustain fisher populations. However, of more
importance to the larger management throughout the Sierra Nevada is the ability
of the entire landscape to provide for the sustainability of the species as a
whole. It is possible that small, localized effects can be absorbed by the
population if the entire landscape level management allows for viable
populations. The authors make reference to this concept when they mention that
treatments may very well lead to population sinks for a species. The
availability of nearby population sources/ refugia and their ability to allow
ultimate persistence of the species should be the focus of the wildlife
analysis.
Defenders strongly agrees with the assertion that “simply documenting that some species will respond favorably [to the proposed treatment] will not solve the management dilemma we are attempting to resolve.” Beyond the implications of the public needing to understand and support the process and management results of the monitoring, we submit that all monitoring must be targeted at asking a question that is relevant to and result in direction to the management program.
Defenders is very concerned over the issue of the local extirpation in the northern study site. We do support the suggestion by the document that reintroduction could provide insight into the adaptive management process. We caution that the use of standards set by other successful fisher reintroductions be followed, and are specifically concerned about the ability of a source population from California to maintain the level of removals needed to establish a viable population. We have conducted a workshop on criteria for successful fisher reintroductions and ask that these guidelines be used as well as the methodology of a detailed and considered feasibility assessment and implementation plan that are both available for public review be included in any reintroduction efforts. These efforts must be conducted in the context of fisher conservation efforts throughout the west and in California. That said, we assert that a well-designed reintroduction to the northern Sierra would provide substantial conservation benefits to the species as well as critical information for the overall goals of the Draft Workplan.
Conclusion: Finally, we support the ambitious and reasoned scientific approach that the Draft Workplan lays out and caution that cost not be used an excuse for complete inaction. We look forward to continued participation in the on-going program of Adaptive Management and Monitoring in the Sierra Nevada. Should you have any questions, I can be contacted directly at: 916-313-5800 ext. 110 or cwilkerson@defenders.org.
Sincerely,
Cynthia Wilkerson California Representative
Defenders of Wildlife 1303 J Street, Suite 270 Sacramento, CA 95814
In reviewing the participatory portion of the document, I found considerable
emphasis on the Decision-making without clarity on what participants would be
allowed to decide: the study questions?, the budget? oversight of the studies?
when a study has gone on as long as it should and should now be ended?
Is this an advisory group to the agencies? to the researchers?
Is this a forum where people can tell the agencies what they think of these
studies?
Is there an expectation that this group may identify new projects that the
members can carry out themselves?
Some clarity on function of the group soon may avoid considerable frustration.
Be sure that the County Boards of Supervisors, FireSafe Councils, and local Chambers of Commerce are alerted to this Workplan. Focus attention on the local elected officials; they were elected by the people in the rural counties that are directly affected by the Sierra Nevada Framework.
Most of the comments fell into the following four categories:
- How did you determine when to bring the public into the process?
- Why is there no socio-economic module?
- Will feedback from stakeholders be used in the research?
- How will feedback from stakeholders be gathered?
Q: How did you determine when to bring the public into the process? A: We believe that it is necessary to bring stakeholders and public into the process as early as possible. Our first public meeting was held within 3 months of the formal initiation of the workplan development process. Prior to that, it was necessary to better define who was to be involved in the project from our end, and to come to agreement on the science team about how to proceed with public participation and workplan development.
Q: Why is there no socio-economic module? A: Socio-economic studies have been conducted by the Forest Service and other agencies and were not requested by the MOU. We will look into community characteristics as we research and attempt to explain the effectiveness of participatory techniques.
Q: Will feedback from stakeholders be used in the research? A: We will make sure that all feedback is carefully considered, and if we cannot make direct use of it we will explain why.
Q: How will you measure participatory success? A: One of the first things we proposed doing is working with stakeholders to develop measures of participation success. A variety of things have already been suggested, including “reduction in appeals to the plan”, follow-through from feedback, being able to show how feedback was used or changed things, direct contact with people, developing constructive relationships with people, and developing broader understanding of the planned treatments and the tradeoffs involved in the choices that need to be made.
Q: How will feedback from stakeholders be gathered? A: In addition to this website, we plan to use public meetings, interviews, and a variety of participatory techniques to involve as many different points of view as possible. Documents including iterations of the workplan will be posted to this website and can be mailed as paper documents upon request.
Relationship between stakeholder input and decision outcomes isn’t clear. SH need to believe their input has something to do with the decision to justify their time.
What options in addition to web site? Will there be a draft work plan, iterations, that can be shared and commented on? Preference for paper documents, overwhelmed by volume of emailed links to web pages.
Success: understanding steps of overall work plan, and how they link together and to FS Work Plan; this is successful public participation
Success measured by activities and not Powerpoint presentations: where meeting with people, how are you talking to them; show how input is utilized, be honest about how input is used or not used, and reasons why




We need to have the promised Powerpoint from the August 20 meeting posted on this website so we can share it with the stakeholder groups we represent, please!